Comments on: PR: the lying profession? http://strivepr.com/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/ experts in digital PR and social media Fri, 05 Mar 2010 21:34:59 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: PR people are liars | Strive Notes http://strivepr.com/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-16497 PR people are liars | Strive Notes Wed, 23 Apr 2008 08:17:38 +0000 http://strivepr.com/wordpress/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/#comment-16497 [...] PR: the lying profession? addthis_url = 'http%3A%2F%2Fstrivepr.com%2Fwordpress%2F2008%2F04%2F23%2Fpr-people-are-liars%2F'; addthis_title = 'PR+people+are+liars'; addthis_pub = 'Sherrilynne'; [...] [...] PR: the lying profession? addthis_url = ‘http%3A%2F%2Fstrivepr.com%2Fwordpress%2F2008%2F04%2F23%2Fpr-people-are-liars%2F’; addthis_title = ‘PR+people+are+liars’; addthis_pub = ‘Sherrilynne’; [...]

]]> By: Brian Keith http://strivepr.com/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-7425 Brian Keith Tue, 06 Mar 2007 23:23:37 +0000 http://strivepr.com/wordpress/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/#comment-7425 A good book for this would be All Marketers are Liars, by Seth Godin. He says that we all tell stories to ourselves, and a marketer's job is to tell authentic stories that people want to hear. PR falls under that. (FYI, I work in the internet marketing industry, and we have as bad a rep as PR.) Brian A good book for this would be All Marketers are Liars, by Seth Godin.

He says that we all tell stories to ourselves, and a marketer’s job is to tell authentic stories that people want to hear.

PR falls under that.

(FYI, I work in the internet marketing industry, and we have as bad a rep as PR.)

Brian

]]> By: Omar Ha-Redeye http://strivepr.com/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-7088 Omar Ha-Redeye Sat, 03 Mar 2007 00:36:20 +0000 http://strivepr.com/wordpress/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/#comment-7088 If the problem is systemic, we should recognize it and brainstorm how to eradicate it, or at least discredit the practice. We need a PR campaign for PR. If the problem is systemic, we should recognize it and brainstorm how to eradicate it, or at least discredit the practice.

We need a PR campaign for PR.

]]> By: sherrilynne http://strivepr.com/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-7005 sherrilynne Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:27:34 +0000 http://strivepr.com/wordpress/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/#comment-7005 Stacey is correct as usual. Stacey is correct as usual.

]]> By: sherrilynne http://strivepr.com/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-7004 sherrilynne Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:26:44 +0000 http://strivepr.com/wordpress/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/#comment-7004 Leo I did see your posts. Good work. Leo I did see your posts. Good work.

]]> By: sherrilynne http://strivepr.com/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-7003 sherrilynne Thu, 01 Mar 2007 08:26:09 +0000 http://strivepr.com/wordpress/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/#comment-7003 Rastus..sorry you're wrong. Sometimes we promote "our truth" but it is the truth, nonetheless. Rastus..sorry you’re wrong. Sometimes we promote “our truth” but it is the truth, nonetheless.

]]> By: Leo Bottary http://strivepr.com/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-6949 Leo Bottary Tue, 27 Feb 2007 19:16:49 +0000 http://strivepr.com/wordpress/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/#comment-6949 Sherrilynne - Looks like we're tracking this week, as you may noticed with my Monday and Tuesday posts. Ethics is in the air! Hope all is well! Leo Sherrilynne – Looks like we’re tracking this week, as you may noticed with my Monday and Tuesday posts. Ethics is in the air! Hope all is well!

Leo

]]> By: Rastus Watermelon http://strivepr.com/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-6944 Rastus Watermelon Tue, 27 Feb 2007 15:06:10 +0000 http://strivepr.com/wordpress/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/#comment-6944 I think it all depends upon what you define as a lie. 'There is no general increase in the number of lies I tell a day'; is probably a truth, and a true PR turn of phrase, but of course masks the true extent to which I commonly perform a terminological inexactitude. Any issue upon which there can be more than one point of view - such as any issue at all - generally requires one to adopt a position. Representing this position in a specific manner without balance or full factual disclosure seems these days to be an acceptable substitute for the truth. "There is no better" - they're all the same. "Studies show" - we commissioned a study. "9 out of 10 cat owners" - ...that we asked. "It could have been much worse" - only your Mum died, sorry. We're often paid to push the angle and neglect some specifics. This in the limit is "to prove or imply the falsity of belief". That's a lie. We're liars. I think it all depends upon what you define as a lie. ‘There is no general increase in the number of lies I tell a day’; is probably a truth, and a true PR turn of phrase, but of course masks the true extent to which I commonly perform a terminological inexactitude.

Any issue upon which there can be more than one point of view – such as any issue at all – generally requires one to adopt a position. Representing this position in a specific manner without balance or full factual disclosure seems these days to be an acceptable substitute for the truth.

“There is no better” – they’re all the same.
“Studies show” – we commissioned a study.
“9 out of 10 cat owners” – …that we asked.
“It could have been much worse” – only your Mum died, sorry.

We’re often paid to push the angle and neglect some specifics. This in the limit is “to prove or imply the falsity of belief”. That’s a lie. We’re liars.

]]> By: Stacey http://strivepr.com/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/comment-page-1/#comment-6939 Stacey Tue, 27 Feb 2007 12:48:52 +0000 http://strivepr.com/wordpress/2007/02/27/pr-the-lying-profession/#comment-6939 As a PR professional the very idea of lying is absurd. Credibility in my role far outweighs the risk of being untruthfu, and my professional ethics certainly do not allow me to even entertain the thought. I was once asked to give two publications an exclusive on the same topic - by some genius who thought no one would notice - I balked immediately and no longer worked for said client. We work hard to cut through the fluff and give out the facts - PR 'professionals' maintain high standards or we wouldn't have the relationships that our clients pay us to nurture and help them get their messages - the true ones - out into the public domain. As a PR professional the very idea of lying is absurd. Credibility in my role far outweighs the risk of being untruthfu, and my professional ethics certainly do not allow me to even entertain the thought. I was once asked to give two publications an exclusive on the same topic – by some genius who thought no one would notice – I balked immediately and no longer worked for said client. We work hard to cut through the fluff and give out the facts – PR ‘professionals’ maintain high standards or we wouldn’t have the relationships that our clients pay us to nurture and help them get their messages – the true ones – out into the public domain.

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